This whole Natalie Holloway situation just IRRITATES me.  Everyone is so eager to blame Joran.  Yes I think he did some wrongful things and was very dishonest, but no, I don't think that he killed the poor girl.  First of all, what was Natalie doing with three strangers she barely knew? I don't know what they teach in Alabama, but haven't you ever heard of the buddy system? I find it very strange that her friends just let her go off with three strangers all by herself.  And here in Georgia, when I go out, usually one of my friends would stay sober to watch out for guys preying on intoxicated girls to prevent things like this from happening.  So first, we need to question this......What had she told her friends? Secondly, I don't believe that Joran put a date rape drug in her drink because she would not be functional, at best disfunctional, if not passed out, but her friends saw her in the car with Joran and his friends.  I do, however; think that there is something fishy about Joran just leaving Natalie at the beach all alone, especially with her being intoxicated, but then again, guys do that to girls all of the time-they fool around with them and then leave........but it is just a strange situation.  My whole problem with this whole situation is this: I think the Arubian authorities did not do everything correctly or right and they did not do enough in the beginning because they thought this was just another tourist who just didn't come home so to speak, but by the time they realized something had really happened to Natalie, it was too late.  Did they every confiscate the car and search it?  Did they confiscate the clothing worn by Joran and test them? There are all kinds of things that could be found to finish telling this story.  For all we know some idiot could have picked Natalie up on side of the road and took her home and raped and killed her..............People are tearing Joran apart because that is all that they have.  i could understand if they found blood on his clothing or some evidence to tie him a crime, but just because he was the last person with Natalie doesn't mean he killed her.  If people would quit spending so much time harassing him, they might just find Natalie or her killer.............But that's just my opinion.

Let the folks at Jorans school in the Netherlands know how you feel, email them at:
international.abs@han.nl, or put pen to paper:
Han Voorlichtings Centrum (HVC)
PostBus 6960
6503 GL Nijmegen Netherlands
I for one will be sending my thoughts

I would look strongly at the possibity Natallie was sold for money. I am sure we are all aware of the money it would take to support 9 atty's for poor little Liar Sloot's. However, if they worked with drug lords from a neighboring island or on Aruba, if they say anything, their family could be killed or harmed.

Might we request a phycic to go to Aruba and see what comes from it? I am not a phycic follower, but if we wait on the Liar Sloot's we will never have the answers for Natallie and her family.

I believe these 3 young boys are lying - however let's not forget the first mistake was Natalie's - why did she go with 3 strangers in the first place- intoxicated or not - how hard did anyone around really try to stop her - and the chaperones what has been their explanation to not being there- how sad it took $1,000,000 to get anyone to come foward - and of course the government is hiding - they waited how long before they really searched-- the landfill, the pond, cars, houses if they are even doing it now - they searched the ocean before a pond-no one should have been released--pressure the parents of all the teens not just 1 - my question to our government why couldn't they intervene -I hate to think my government has no power to rescue me - the Aruban people got mad when Natalie's mom got fustrated and vented - imagine someone is missing that is a part of you and you are getting no answers - I don't wish it on anyone but never say never - they certainly can't feel that safe anymore either -as far as the comments of those people about us being proud to be Americans aren't you proud to be whatever you are?

The real question is, would all this taboo be going on if Natalee Holloway was a minority? Something to think about.....

Look, I don't know if she was raped or killed or simply just don't want to show her face to anyone. But what I do know is that the parents of Natalee need to talk with Silvia Brown. This woman really does know what she is talking about. Besides, if they did kill her, please let God handle them(those that commited the murder) and I promise you that God will make them pay for what they did. What was done in the dark will eventually come to the light.
To the Holloway family, stay strong and may God prove everyone to be wrong. May Natalee come home very very soon. God bless you all.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A T-SHIRT COMPANY MAKE THOUSANDS OF T-SHIRTS WITH NATALIE HOLLOWAY'S BEAUTIFUL FACE ON THEM A GIVE THEM AWAY TO ANYONE IN ARUBA. HER FACE MUST BE A CONSTANT REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT SHE IS IMPORTANT AND SHE SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN.

What the hell? You need evidence before you start insisting on harsher punishments. "WHAT MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED?!?!", I seem to recall you howling like a bewildered boar. You need plenty more evidence.

To charge someone with murder, you need proof of a death, and a body (while not -absolutely- necessary, couldn't hurt at all). To charge with rape, you need proof of a rape. A witness, semen found in the (nonexistent) body, et cet.

I understand you're upset. I think it's a sad story too. But not as sad as you "PROUD 2 B AMERICAN" types stomping all over civil liberties and freedoms.

P.S: Marijuana isn't the only legalized drug in the Netherlands; any recreational drug is legal for personal use. So your theory on marijuana being the gateway to drug violence and crime in Holland is false. Drug Lords don't compete for cocaine influence there.

By the way, my commentary is directed at "What does it matter.." not the original blogger...

Hmmm,
Well, I find it interesting that those who thank God they are not American keep reading our speculations on what happened in the Natalee Holloway case. Don't read it. Wherever you are from, I assume that it just doesn't matter in your country what happens to your citizens. If I was Dave Holloway, I might not be so forgiving as to hold hands with Paul VanderSloot and "respect" him for being a liar and a coward and enabling his spoiled snotty Dutch son to bring harm to another person with the help of his stupid friends. I guess that's okay in your country and you wouldn't even have a negative emotion about it. I assume from your commentary that you think anyone who wants retribution and justice for the MURDER of their daughter is somehow a violent person by nature. If ANYONE brings harm to my children, I will do whatever it takes to make them pay for it. If the law won't do it, I will. My children are PRECIOUS to me and I know that anyone who would lie about what they know about my childrens' disappearance is IMMORAL and deserves to be brought to justice. If the lame Dutch legal system couldn't do it, and the U.S. has no jurisdiction, then those directly involved with a crime of this type against my daughter had better watch out for me. I would not have to hire someone to make them tell me what happened - I would take care of it myself and they would tell the truth no matter what I had to do to make them tell the TRUTH.

Here are the "facts" in this case:
The facts remain that there is no evidence to be found in this disappearance. So, a list of known facts for you to think about, since I guess you don't have to think about crime where you are from - you must live in the Brave New World...

Fact 1:
Those three idiots stalked this girl.
Fact 2:
Those three idiots were seen taking her away from her travel group.
Fact 3:
Those three idiots did not demonstrate an appropriate level of concern for this girl when they learned she was missing..
Fact 4:
Those three idiots decided to make up a LIE about where they took her, what they did, who did what with her, and tried to blame "the black guys" for her disappearance. Gee - no sense of racist outrage from anyone on this, is there?
Fact 5:
The father - an even larger idiot - told his son (in front of Natalee's parents) to say nothing because there was no evidence. Perhaps this is because he is such a "great" legal mind and can't quit acting like a mock defense attorney, or perhaps it is because he knows the TRUTH and doesn't want his precious spoiled little brat to have to suffer the consequences of his own actions.
Fact 6:
The mother - a huge idiot - went on national television and said what all stupid women say about their spoiled little children "my baby wouldn't lie - he told me 'mommy, I wouldn't have been in the casino if you had been home,' " leading this idiot woman to further support the image of them as RIDICULOUS parents with an OUT-OF-CONTROL child who is involved in things he has no business being involved in.
Fact 7:
The Netherlands is not known for its ability to handle horrendous crimes. Remember, this is the little nation that could. They supposedly have a low crime rate, but it is increasing because of other legal activities (i.e., drugs). They have legal marijuana use (supposedly to cut down on the crimes in that nation), which has only given rise to other crimes with more serious drugs. This is not publicly discussed because they are proud of their pot shops, their pot candy, and their pot clubs. It keeps pot legal for AMERICANS to go there and toke up. And, it allows other drugs, like cocaine and heroin to sneak in the back door and become a problem for Dutch law enforcement. These are facts. Street crimes are on the rise in these "clubs" because of the plethora of other drugs that have managed to filter in that are NOT LEGAL. The legal system is having a hard time handling these social changes. They are slow to move because the general attitude is that Holland is a "safe place," just like Aruba. Ask anyone from the Netherlands - Aruba is where they go to really get drugs and go crazy on vacation. The fact that the VanderSloots live there and have taken their son there is only an indicator that they are looking for an even more laid back environment for themselves
Fact 7:
The VanderSloots are in heavy denial that their son has been influenced by their lax culture. Allowed to roam free in Aruba, his reputation is not that trouble free - like many spoiled American children who find themselves having to go to drug rehab due to early partying and drinking and no supervision of any type. Do you think the Europeans are not experiencing some of this same cultural phenomena that we are?
Fact 8:
The Dutch legal system is not equipped to deal with other types of serious crimes because of their "policies" and "rules." Why do you think Islamic terrorists find the Netherlands to be a safe haven? Do you think it was a coincidence that the Van Gogh filmmaker was shot down freely in the streets of Amsterdam? Their legal system is allowing a free door to all types of influences because of their "feel good" social attitudes towards others. Since these are new things to deal with, you can't believe for a minute that they are equipped or experienced at finding missing girls in their vacation spot, collecting good evidence, conducting thorough and successful investigations, or ferreting out terrorists in their streets. THey don't have the expertise or the mindset for it yet. They are just starting to get to where we were in the 1960's when the civil rights movement, the hippie movement, the anti-war movement, and the terrorist movement started in this country.
Fact 9:
Natalee Holloway is the victim here - not the VanderSloots or the Kalpoe families. The VICTIM is missing and has no one to defend herself. Her family and the rest of us here in America will see to it that she is not written off as a casualty of an inattentive culture.

As for the "crap" theories that we purport - there are so many possibilities that the Dutch government has not discussed or explored because of their secretive processes.
For instance:
1. Date rape drugs are readily available. Has there been any investigation or search for any of these in the possession of these three stupid idiot boys? These drugs make the victim appear to be totally intoxicated to others when they are being victimized by criminals.
2. What is the history of these boys? Any previous accusations by any other girls?
3. What is in their internet or text-message files?
4. Why be totally disinterested in helping to find this missing girl that they just took out in their car?
5. Why be rude to the missing girl's family if you have nothing to hide?
6. Why make up stories about what supposedly happened? Why not tell the TRUTH right away?
7. Why turn down the expertise of the FBI in actually conducting investigations? Why limit them to "observers" as though that means anything. The Dutch government is ARROGANT in believing that they can better get to the truth than the FBI. For God's sake, they don't even have a crime lab in ARUBA because they supposedly don't have any crime. (Which begs the question - do they really have no crime or do they just ignore it so they can be a good tourist draw?)

I could go on, but this is so stupid. The facts point to these three individuals and their father covering up a crime. That should not go unpunished. In the U.S., Paul VanderSloot would be held in contempt of court or charged with obstruction of justice. In the U.S., those boys would have been charged with kidnapping and murder and preparations for a trial would be underway. In the U.S., the DNA evidence would already have been collected and tested. In the U.S., those boys would have never been allowed to roam free under the guise of "good investigative work" to allow investigators to follow them around and see what they would do - oh please. That is the lamest old pink panther excuse I have heard yet. These are incompetent backwards thinking people who think their gumshoe tactics are acceptable in the age of wireless text messages and internet cafes. That's like going to Brazil and expecting a rainforest tribe to be able to solve a terrorist plot... Those of you who defend this incompetency are equally ridiculous. We are OUTRAGED in this country because we do know what kinds of tools we have to solve crimes and NONE of them are being used. It is better to do SOMETHING than to sit back and put people in jail, ignore them and hope to God they will confess. That is just stupid. He can wait it out so he can go to his college and become a lawyer just like his hack father. They should be ashamed and they should be doing something to express their sorrow to Natalee's family rather than act like poor little Joran and the Kalpoe boys are just sweet innocents. THEY TOOK THIS GIRL IN THEIR CAR AND SHE DIDN'T RETURN. WHAT MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED??? They never even said "I liked her so much I am so distressed that she didn't make it back." AND WHAT KIND OF BOYS would make up a horrid story like "she was drunk so we kicked her out of the car and let her stagger back to her room." That just makes them look so respectable and upstanding. I would want to beat them just for that. AND WHAT KIND OF PARENTS RAISE THESE KINDS OF DISRESPECTFUL LITTLE PUNKS????

Parents are part of the problem here - they don't want to see what they have raised or make their minor children be accountable under the law. They are busy hiding their children's flaws under their piles of material goods rather than make them be moral and forthright people.

But of course, American culture is blamed for the Natalee Holloway murder, and anyone who expresses outrage over the baffoonish behavior of the Aruban police and prosecutors is just out of line...

Whatever. I'm not ashamed of being an American mom. I can tell you that my children will not go blindly into other countries thinking that there is a strong justice system outside of the U.S.

We Americans believe in justice. No standard of justice says it is acceptable to rape and murder, or cover for those who do. The behavior of the van der Sloots is suspicious and suggests a strong suspicion of guilt. The Aruban authorities have demonstrated ineptitude. What would you have us do?

I'm proud to be a loving American mother.I blog hypotheses as we have little facts.
If you don't like it, Pull de Plug and go.

I think that YOU, as well as SCARED MONKEYS, should stop posting hypotheses about this case and stick to the facts only. I'm not American (I thank God for that), and it's tiring reading this CRAP that you all post, not only about this case, but anything else. I can't believe what I've read about this case in which plainly portrays the general American psyche; "Hire a hitman and kill these 4 bastards" ... "If I was Dave Holloway, I would get a gun and kill these three kids myself" ....

I mean .... really.